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		<title>By: Cynthia Corby</title>
		<link>http://www.fem2pt0.com/2008/11/07/what-does-feminism-look-like-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia Corby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stumbled upon this site tonight and have been sharing it with all of my activist friends in the last few hours.  I am on board with so many of the thoughts here--Liza&#039;s post and the comments have me so hopeful to make it in February.  MadamaAmbi is right, there are so many that would like to come but will not be able to.  I hope to hear more about how these amazing people will be able to join in the conference from afar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stumbled upon this site tonight and have been sharing it with all of my activist friends in the last few hours.  I am on board with so many of the thoughts here&#8211;Liza&#8217;s post and the comments have me so hopeful to make it in February.  MadamaAmbi is right, there are so many that would like to come but will not be able to.  I hope to hear more about how these amazing people will be able to join in the conference from afar.</p>
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		<title>By: Ananda Leeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ananda Leeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 06:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very excited about what women are doing online. Everyone&#039;s comments above affirm my decision to attend Fem 2.0 in February.</description>
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		<title>By: MadamaAmbi</title>
		<link>http://www.fem2pt0.com/2008/11/07/what-does-feminism-look-like-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>MadamaAmbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Amy--I agree 100% about redefining feminism...there are so many women we need to align with, and listen to, and discover where we are on the same page and where we need to work...I&#039;m working on this via Feminist Advisory Board for Obama (on Facebook and blogger), an event I&#039;m calling ROADTRIP, which will be a series of interviews with women about &quot;how they got feminist&quot; and also in conversation with other feminists about how we can help one another.

Specifically, I am right now developing a workshop that might be useful at the conference being put on in April by EngageHer (Mable Yee is leading this org).  My aim is to address the splits not only in the feminist community, but the ways in which feminism has left out or pushed out women who are our sisters!  I want to get past the &quot;talking at&quot; model and do more of a group process, and to do this I will draw on my background in feminist psychotherapy.

One more issue, however: I&#039;d like to challenge the assumption that the ultimate educational/organizing tool is a face-to-face conference.  This leaves a lot of women out!  Including me!  I have chronic pain/fatigue and cannot conference-hop.  Neither can women who have kids/jobs/very tight budgets...and these are the very women I want to bring inside the tent.  So, can we talk here?  I&#039;d like to see feminist orgz get their act into web-conference mode, or blog talk radio, or other online platform that allows for non-local participation.  Blogging is great, but it reaches a particular population of women who already have the confidence to write.  IMO, we need to make many access points for women &amp; girls who have not yet found their voices.  In the meantime, I&#039;m happy to know about you and your work, and I will check it out, pronto.

Pls feel free to write to me: madama ambi at g mail dot com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Amy&#8211;I agree 100% about redefining feminism&#8230;there are so many women we need to align with, and listen to, and discover where we are on the same page and where we need to work&#8230;I&#8217;m working on this via Feminist Advisory Board for Obama (on Facebook and blogger), an event I&#8217;m calling ROADTRIP, which will be a series of interviews with women about &#8220;how they got feminist&#8221; and also in conversation with other feminists about how we can help one another.</p>
<p>Specifically, I am right now developing a workshop that might be useful at the conference being put on in April by EngageHer (Mable Yee is leading this org).  My aim is to address the splits not only in the feminist community, but the ways in which feminism has left out or pushed out women who are our sisters!  I want to get past the &#8220;talking at&#8221; model and do more of a group process, and to do this I will draw on my background in feminist psychotherapy.</p>
<p>One more issue, however: I&#8217;d like to challenge the assumption that the ultimate educational/organizing tool is a face-to-face conference.  This leaves a lot of women out!  Including me!  I have chronic pain/fatigue and cannot conference-hop.  Neither can women who have kids/jobs/very tight budgets&#8230;and these are the very women I want to bring inside the tent.  So, can we talk here?  I&#8217;d like to see feminist orgz get their act into web-conference mode, or blog talk radio, or other online platform that allows for non-local participation.  Blogging is great, but it reaches a particular population of women who already have the confidence to write.  IMO, we need to make many access points for women &amp; girls who have not yet found their voices.  In the meantime, I&#8217;m happy to know about you and your work, and I will check it out, pronto.</p>
<p>Pls feel free to write to me: madama ambi at g mail dot com</p>
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		<title>By: Shaping Youth &#187; Fem 2.0: Feminine Feminism &#38; The Mother of All Conversations</title>
		<link>http://www.fem2pt0.com/2008/11/07/what-does-feminism-look-like-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaping Youth &#187; Fem 2.0: Feminine Feminism &#38; The Mother of All Conversations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ya know? Liza Sabater, one of the organizers of the Fem2.0 conference wrote a great article called, What Does Feminism Look Like on the Web giving us the cultural context of media’s explosive growth, harkening back to 2001 when SHE first [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Amy Jussel</title>
		<link>http://www.fem2pt0.com/2008/11/07/what-does-feminism-look-like-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Jussel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At Shaping Youth, (media and marketing&#039;s impact on kids) we&#039;ve been covering &quot;All Things Girl&quot; for the last two weeks, (wraps Friday) so I was thrilled to have Gloria Pan ping me with the news of this upcoming conference, to change the shape of the conversation and hopefully, include more GIRLS in the mix as well. 

Reason being, from the Anita Borg Institute research and beyond (http://tinyurl.com/6qq3vh ) we&#039;re seeing a dearth of young girls entering technology fields and the hypersexualization at ever-increasing young ages (the &#039;thongs for tweens syndrome&#039;) creating a generation of girls that are going BACKWARDS rather than forwards in their self-image and self-worth. (see the APA study on the harm of early sexualization cues and our commentary on the boy toy bit here: 
http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=309

As I wrote in this piece &quot;Does the F word need rebranding? Ask Teens&quot;

http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=1289

...I think we truly need to redefine, recast, and reclaim the &#039;feminism&#039; phraseology and ideology in order not to miss the boat with young girls and our future leaders of women on the web. I REALLY hope I can make it to D.C. and be a part of this vital conversation! Thanks for opening up the dialog.

www.ShapingYouth.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Shaping Youth, (media and marketing&#8217;s impact on kids) we&#8217;ve been covering &#8220;All Things Girl&#8221; for the last two weeks, (wraps Friday) so I was thrilled to have Gloria Pan ping me with the news of this upcoming conference, to change the shape of the conversation and hopefully, include more GIRLS in the mix as well. </p>
<p>Reason being, from the Anita Borg Institute research and beyond (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/6qq3vh" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6qq3vh</a> ) we&#8217;re seeing a dearth of young girls entering technology fields and the hypersexualization at ever-increasing young ages (the &#8216;thongs for tweens syndrome&#8217;) creating a generation of girls that are going BACKWARDS rather than forwards in their self-image and self-worth. (see the APA study on the harm of early sexualization cues and our commentary on the boy toy bit here:<br />
<a href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=309" rel="nofollow">http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=309</a></p>
<p>As I wrote in this piece &#8220;Does the F word need rebranding? Ask Teens&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=1289" rel="nofollow">http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=1289</a></p>
<p>&#8230;I think we truly need to redefine, recast, and reclaim the &#8216;feminism&#8217; phraseology and ideology in order not to miss the boat with young girls and our future leaders of women on the web. I REALLY hope I can make it to D.C. and be a part of this vital conversation! Thanks for opening up the dialog.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ShapingYouth.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.ShapingYouth.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: MadamaAmbi</title>
		<link>http://www.fem2pt0.com/2008/11/07/what-does-feminism-look-like-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>MadamaAmbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  It&#039;s very exciting to feel the energy here!  I may be older than most of you--I&#039;m 54, and because I&#039;m in chronic pain/fatigue, I say that the internet has made me possible.  I&#039;ve spent the last 9 months working to get Obama elected, but also sharpened some of my feminist chops while inside of that wild, open community.  Well, kind of open...I&#039;m still explaining to men and women how WOMAN is universal, how patriarchy is still invisible to most (and no, I don&#039;t live in Saudi Arabia, as I was once asked when I brought this up at, no kidding, a 4th of July party!).  I think it&#039;s fair to say that my thinking is truly radical; read A Powered Woman (link on blog) and you&#039;ll see what I&#039;m talking about.

The underground roar of women&#039;s voices on the internet might be comparable to the underground abortion network of the 1960&#039;s, known as Jane.  I wasn&#039;t old enough to be involved, but I read about it and if you haven&#039;t read about it, it will blow your mind.  Here&#039;s my point: we (feminists, women, girls) are very connected in many ways, but some important people are currently left out of the picture and our visibility is still marginalized.  I want to change this.  I&#039;m on this, but I don&#039;t travel well, and will not make it to the conference in D.C. in all likelihood.  I would love to participate in some online way, if possible, and I have a few ideas about that...yours in solidarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  It&#8217;s very exciting to feel the energy here!  I may be older than most of you&#8211;I&#8217;m 54, and because I&#8217;m in chronic pain/fatigue, I say that the internet has made me possible.  I&#8217;ve spent the last 9 months working to get Obama elected, but also sharpened some of my feminist chops while inside of that wild, open community.  Well, kind of open&#8230;I&#8217;m still explaining to men and women how WOMAN is universal, how patriarchy is still invisible to most (and no, I don&#8217;t live in Saudi Arabia, as I was once asked when I brought this up at, no kidding, a 4th of July party!).  I think it&#8217;s fair to say that my thinking is truly radical; read A Powered Woman (link on blog) and you&#8217;ll see what I&#8217;m talking about.</p>
<p>The underground roar of women&#8217;s voices on the internet might be comparable to the underground abortion network of the 1960&#8242;s, known as Jane.  I wasn&#8217;t old enough to be involved, but I read about it and if you haven&#8217;t read about it, it will blow your mind.  Here&#8217;s my point: we (feminists, women, girls) are very connected in many ways, but some important people are currently left out of the picture and our visibility is still marginalized.  I want to change this.  I&#8217;m on this, but I don&#8217;t travel well, and will not make it to the conference in D.C. in all likelihood.  I would love to participate in some online way, if possible, and I have a few ideas about that&#8230;yours in solidarity.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://www.fem2pt0.com/2008/11/07/what-does-feminism-look-like-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think women are running the table on the web.  Most of our top bloggers are women.  Mommy bloggers might get more ad revenue than any other category of web presence.  We may HEAR more about men on the web, but, as usual, it&#039;s the women who are really kicking a** and taking names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think women are running the table on the web.  Most of our top bloggers are women.  Mommy bloggers might get more ad revenue than any other category of web presence.  We may HEAR more about men on the web, but, as usual, it&#8217;s the women who are really kicking a** and taking names.</p>
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		<title>By: Marianne Schnall</title>
		<link>http://www.fem2pt0.com/2008/11/07/what-does-feminism-look-like-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Marianne Schnall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we first founded Feminist.com all the way back in 1995, the media was reporting that only 15% of Internet users were women, and very few women&#039;s organizations had web sites. That is why one of Feminist.com&#039;s first purposes was to offer women&#039;s organizations their first web presence by giving them space at Feminist.com - something we did for groups such as the Ms. Foundation for Women, Equality Now, Girls Inc., V-Day and many others. All these years later, it is very exciting and so heartening to see the absolute explosion - not just of all the women&#039;s organizations that now have very comprehensive web sites - but of all the women-oriented sites, communities and bloggers whose perspectives have found powerful expression on the web. We are beginning to see an increasingly robust, diverse representation of women&#039;s voices (often lacking in traditional media), and also a sense of the many different ways feminism manifests itself in our lives and in our world. 

Feminist.com, much like Feminism 2.0, was inspired by the possibilities of the Internet to educate, empower, foster activism, and build a sense of community. Having witnessed the tremendous growth of women&#039;s online influence over the past 14 years, I have no doubt that this trend will continue. What does feminism look like on the web? It looks like all of us, through sites like these, learning from each other, and working in partnership towards our common goals. Feminist.com is proud to be a part of Feminism 2.0!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we first founded Feminist.com all the way back in 1995, the media was reporting that only 15% of Internet users were women, and very few women&#8217;s organizations had web sites. That is why one of Feminist.com&#8217;s first purposes was to offer women&#8217;s organizations their first web presence by giving them space at Feminist.com &#8211; something we did for groups such as the Ms. Foundation for Women, Equality Now, Girls Inc., V-Day and many others. All these years later, it is very exciting and so heartening to see the absolute explosion &#8211; not just of all the women&#8217;s organizations that now have very comprehensive web sites &#8211; but of all the women-oriented sites, communities and bloggers whose perspectives have found powerful expression on the web. We are beginning to see an increasingly robust, diverse representation of women&#8217;s voices (often lacking in traditional media), and also a sense of the many different ways feminism manifests itself in our lives and in our world. </p>
<p>Feminist.com, much like Feminism 2.0, was inspired by the possibilities of the Internet to educate, empower, foster activism, and build a sense of community. Having witnessed the tremendous growth of women&#8217;s online influence over the past 14 years, I have no doubt that this trend will continue. What does feminism look like on the web? It looks like all of us, through sites like these, learning from each other, and working in partnership towards our common goals. Feminist.com is proud to be a part of Feminism 2.0!</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.fem2pt0.com/2008/11/07/what-does-feminism-look-like-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The digital movement is being championed, of course, and in many ways unconsciously, by millennials and the younger generation... the under-25 crowd, if you will :). They are coming at the Internet and the digital age in an unconscious way, an approach that has integrated their personal beliefs, thoughts, creativity and their lives with a multi-faceted and unlimited platform of expression. Now young women (and men, but, according to some studies, the majority are women) have found a way to express formerly hidden or quieted parts of themselves online, and it&#039;s changing the way we communicate and relate to each other, and quite possibly the ways that men and women view each other. 

This kind of interaction is almost required for people my age and, increasingly, everyone to connect with peer groups, start dialogue between people and groups, become active on campuses, in schools and through grassroots networking, and keep up with a vast network of acquaintances and friends. I, for one, used my first computer when I was 3. I made my first email address when I was 11 (and still use it to this day). I wrote my first blog post when I was 13, and I probably used my first HTML codes at around the same time. I&#039;d rather Facebook you than call you; I get my Twitter messages faster than I get my emails; I check the website before I crack open the phone book; I&#039;ll take a screenshot of CNN and sell it in 20 years instead of buying the newspaper on Election Day. It feels completely natural and just a common part of life... but where is it going? How will this evolve, and how can women, especially young women, learn to harness this accessibility and power and amplify their voice?

The internet is not the great equalizer, because those who truly understand it -- how computers work, now networks work, how data is transferred and even stolen -- hold the advantage. I want to use these skills (not even skills, these instincts) for the next level of action, and that requires educating myself and others on what, exactly, can be done. Women use the internet to explore who we are; now we need to use it to find out who we can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The digital movement is being championed, of course, and in many ways unconsciously, by millennials and the younger generation&#8230; the under-25 crowd, if you will <img src='http://www.fem2pt0.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . They are coming at the Internet and the digital age in an unconscious way, an approach that has integrated their personal beliefs, thoughts, creativity and their lives with a multi-faceted and unlimited platform of expression. Now young women (and men, but, according to some studies, the majority are women) have found a way to express formerly hidden or quieted parts of themselves online, and it&#8217;s changing the way we communicate and relate to each other, and quite possibly the ways that men and women view each other. </p>
<p>This kind of interaction is almost required for people my age and, increasingly, everyone to connect with peer groups, start dialogue between people and groups, become active on campuses, in schools and through grassroots networking, and keep up with a vast network of acquaintances and friends. I, for one, used my first computer when I was 3. I made my first email address when I was 11 (and still use it to this day). I wrote my first blog post when I was 13, and I probably used my first HTML codes at around the same time. I&#8217;d rather Facebook you than call you; I get my Twitter messages faster than I get my emails; I check the website before I crack open the phone book; I&#8217;ll take a screenshot of CNN and sell it in 20 years instead of buying the newspaper on Election Day. It feels completely natural and just a common part of life&#8230; but where is it going? How will this evolve, and how can women, especially young women, learn to harness this accessibility and power and amplify their voice?</p>
<p>The internet is not the great equalizer, because those who truly understand it &#8212; how computers work, now networks work, how data is transferred and even stolen &#8212; hold the advantage. I want to use these skills (not even skills, these instincts) for the next level of action, and that requires educating myself and others on what, exactly, can be done. Women use the internet to explore who we are; now we need to use it to find out who we can be.</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria Pan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gloria Pan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though people have been blogging for about ten years, blogging became an established part of media only over the last five years or so, and the phenomenon of women&#039;s voices really noticed over the last year.  Of course, it&#039;s not just about blogging, but myriad other online channels, and not just about women expressing themselves, but the opportunity to just participate in the wider world beyond our front doors through the simple act of even just sending an email or commenting on an online article. This is a really terrific and valuable overview of the digital road feminism has traveled, providing hope, inspiration and excitement for the great possibilities to come. Thanks, Liza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though people have been blogging for about ten years, blogging became an established part of media only over the last five years or so, and the phenomenon of women&#8217;s voices really noticed over the last year.  Of course, it&#8217;s not just about blogging, but myriad other online channels, and not just about women expressing themselves, but the opportunity to just participate in the wider world beyond our front doors through the simple act of even just sending an email or commenting on an online article. This is a really terrific and valuable overview of the digital road feminism has traveled, providing hope, inspiration and excitement for the great possibilities to come. Thanks, Liza.</p>
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