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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.fem2pt0.com/2009/01/03/mothers-of-dissension-a-case-study-of-how-internet-fueled-moms-are-changing-things/#comment-6207</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elena, I am a 100% naturalized LEGAL Hispanic woman living in Prince William County, and I am utterly SICK, DISGUSTED, and TIRED of your associated groups (Anti-BVBL, Casa de Maryland, Mexicans without Borders, Zapatista, etc.) lumping us Hispanics together with illegals!!!  Illegals can be other races/ethnicities, too!  As soon as somebody mentions illegal aliens, it is YOUR crowd that screams "OMG! Hispanics!" I am TIRED of being called "European Wetback" because I look fair-skinned.  Guess who calls me that horrid name?  Certainly NOT the members of BVBL, HSM, FAIR, or the "anti-immigrant"/"hate" groups as you like to call them. Corey, John, HSM, BVBL, and those who support them and those groups have done far more in just a couple years' time for U.S. citizens such as myself than the so-called "leaders" I left when I immigrated here.  I daresay, Anti-BVBL, Casa de Maryland, Mexicans without Borders, Zapatista, whatever have done absolutely NOTHING for legal citizens living in Prince William County in the same amount of time.  My community looks clean without the graffiti and trash.  Who cleaned it up?  It was HSM.  How come when there is an immigration protest, I never see European flags being waved?

Elena, when you point the finger at someone, three more are pointing at you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elena, I am a 100% naturalized LEGAL Hispanic woman living in Prince William County, and I am utterly SICK, DISGUSTED, and TIRED of your associated groups (Anti-BVBL, Casa de Maryland, Mexicans without Borders, Zapatista, etc.) lumping us Hispanics together with illegals!!!  Illegals can be other races/ethnicities, too!  As soon as somebody mentions illegal aliens, it is YOUR crowd that screams &#8220;OMG! Hispanics!&#8221; I am TIRED of being called &#8220;European Wetback&#8221; because I look fair-skinned.  Guess who calls me that horrid name?  Certainly NOT the members of BVBL, HSM, FAIR, or the &#8220;anti-immigrant&#8221;/&#8221;hate&#8221; groups as you like to call them. Corey, John, HSM, BVBL, and those who support them and those groups have done far more in just a couple years&#8217; time for U.S. citizens such as myself than the so-called &#8220;leaders&#8221; I left when I immigrated here.  I daresay, Anti-BVBL, Casa de Maryland, Mexicans without Borders, Zapatista, whatever have done absolutely NOTHING for legal citizens living in Prince William County in the same amount of time.  My community looks clean without the graffiti and trash.  Who cleaned it up?  It was HSM.  How come when there is an immigration protest, I never see European flags being waved?</p>
<p>Elena, when you point the finger at someone, three more are pointing at you.</p>
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		<title>By: Elena</title>
		<link>http://www.fem2pt0.com/2009/01/03/mothers-of-dissension-a-case-study-of-how-internet-fueled-moms-are-changing-things/#comment-6165</link>
		<dc:creator>Elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"belle",

The tone of Greg's blog has always and will remain a tool to scapegoat and villify "illegals" or better known as Hispanics.  His most recent thread on an outbreak of swine flu blames the illness on illegals crossing the border.  His tone is the worst kind of scapegoating, riddled with misinformation.  There is no credible comparison between the two blogs.  Futhermore, while Katherine Gothhardt may have used terminology that was very emotional, she never called children parasites or suggested they were animals who had "breeding" season like Mr. Duecaster, who was subsequently approved for his nomination.  Interesting that John Stirrup and Corey Stewart had not problem supporting Robert Duecasters "freedom of speech" but not Katherine's.  I believe we call that hyprocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;belle&#8221;,</p>
<p>The tone of Greg&#8217;s blog has always and will remain a tool to scapegoat and villify &#8220;illegals&#8221; or better known as Hispanics.  His most recent thread on an outbreak of swine flu blames the illness on illegals crossing the border.  His tone is the worst kind of scapegoating, riddled with misinformation.  There is no credible comparison between the two blogs.  Futhermore, while Katherine Gothhardt may have used terminology that was very emotional, she never called children parasites or suggested they were animals who had &#8220;breeding&#8221; season like Mr. Duecaster, who was subsequently approved for his nomination.  Interesting that John Stirrup and Corey Stewart had not problem supporting Robert Duecasters &#8220;freedom of speech&#8221; but not Katherine&#8217;s.  I believe we call that hyprocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle Hertanez</title>
		<link>http://www.fem2pt0.com/2009/01/03/mothers-of-dissension-a-case-study-of-how-internet-fueled-moms-are-changing-things/#comment-6112</link>
		<dc:creator>Belle Hertanez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: "Elena"

You lament of the hatred you see in Prince William County; let me ask you this: Do YOU not see what Katherine Gotthardt writes 24/7 on anti-bvbl, says to the press, and tells other people?  Is that not "hate speech" in it of iteslf?  Did Gotthardt TRULY and HONESTLY exptect the BoCS to vote "Yes" to her appointment to the Convention and Visitor's Bureau, while somehow ignoring her ongoing contempt and disdain about PWC, its policies, and its leaders?  The only thing this kind of activity landed her was a 5-3 failed motion and a foot in the rear end :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: &#8220;Elena&#8221;</p>
<p>You lament of the hatred you see in Prince William County; let me ask you this: Do YOU not see what Katherine Gotthardt writes 24/7 on anti-bvbl, says to the press, and tells other people?  Is that not &#8220;hate speech&#8221; in it of iteslf?  Did Gotthardt TRULY and HONESTLY exptect the BoCS to vote &#8220;Yes&#8221; to her appointment to the Convention and Visitor&#8217;s Bureau, while somehow ignoring her ongoing contempt and disdain about PWC, its policies, and its leaders?  The only thing this kind of activity landed her was a 5-3 failed motion and a foot in the rear end <img src='http://www.fem2pt0.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.fem2pt0.com/2009/01/03/mothers-of-dissension-a-case-study-of-how-internet-fueled-moms-are-changing-things/#comment-6095</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The postings on antibvbl are factual and not argumentative? Give me a break. Anyone who disagrees with them is automatically labeled "anti-immigrant", "racist", or some other things. They engage in name calling and call our supervisors names. They have labeled Corey Stewart a Nazi and a racist more times than I can remember. They don't want reasonable discussion on their blog - if they did they wouldn't label everyone who comes on there that disagrees with them as "anti-immigrant", or attempt to lump them in with the bvbl gang. What a bunch of phonies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The postings on antibvbl are factual and not argumentative? Give me a break. Anyone who disagrees with them is automatically labeled &#8220;anti-immigrant&#8221;, &#8220;racist&#8221;, or some other things. They engage in name calling and call our supervisors names. They have labeled Corey Stewart a Nazi and a racist more times than I can remember. They don&#8217;t want reasonable discussion on their blog - if they did they wouldn&#8217;t label everyone who comes on there that disagrees with them as &#8220;anti-immigrant&#8221;, or attempt to lump them in with the bvbl gang. What a bunch of phonies.</p>
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		<title>By: Elena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this very important article in the Wash Post.  What Alanna and I saw was a virulent hate that was growing against our immigrant community.  If you looked latino, you were instantly seen as "illegal".  As a matter of act, one our our Supervisors is married to a woman from Peru.  A citizen, during the most contentious time in PWC, actually accused him of being an "illegal alien and abetter" because he his "inlaws" must be illegal.  It was chilling.  There needs to be a discussion about immgration, that is true.  Historically speaking, immigration, has, and will remain, a very hot button issue.  Interesting considering that we are a nation of immigrants.  BTW, the person who posts on anti, Mackie, is the only poster we have who has been called out on his "anti white" rants.  Overall, our conversations are fact based and respectful, even when we disagree.  As a matter of fact, the Anti Defamation League has not called Anti-Bvbl or its blog owners "extremists", however, they have labeled Greg Letique and HSM in such terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this very important article in the Wash Post.  What Alanna and I saw was a virulent hate that was growing against our immigrant community.  If you looked latino, you were instantly seen as &#8220;illegal&#8221;.  As a matter of act, one our our Supervisors is married to a woman from Peru.  A citizen, during the most contentious time in PWC, actually accused him of being an &#8220;illegal alien and abetter&#8221; because he his &#8220;inlaws&#8221; must be illegal.  It was chilling.  There needs to be a discussion about immgration, that is true.  Historically speaking, immigration, has, and will remain, a very hot button issue.  Interesting considering that we are a nation of immigrants.  BTW, the person who posts on anti, Mackie, is the only poster we have who has been called out on his &#8220;anti white&#8221; rants.  Overall, our conversations are fact based and respectful, even when we disagree.  As a matter of fact, the Anti Defamation League has not called Anti-Bvbl or its blog owners &#8220;extremists&#8221;, however, they have labeled Greg Letique and HSM in such terms.</p>
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		<title>By: TriRes</title>
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		<dc:creator>TriRes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BVBL is hardly "anti-immigrant".  There is a BIG difference between "anti-immigrant" and "anti-ILLEGAL immigrant."  If you want to see "anti-immigrant" sentiments, go to France.  Trust me, what we talk about here is NOTHING compared to how the immigration debate goes.  I am sick and tired of how my community is looking because of gang activity, drugs, and graffiti.  BVBL actually goes out to clean up the mess the ILLEGAL ALIENS leave behind.  Not once do I read a post on anti-bvbl that reads "graffiti clean up in neighborhood X tomorrow. Meet us at X intersection."  I am a Latina myself, and I am thoroughly disgusted with the way the folks at anti-bvbl handle readers who have views that are different from their own.  "Open dialogue"? You gotta be kidding me!  As soon as you post "anchor baby," you are blocked from posting further comments, yet they allow their readers to say things such as "make the white man pay" and "help save our white a**es" and merely receive a slap on the wrist.  Where is your story about the elderly woman in D.C. who was defrauded thousands of dollars by a bunch of illegal aliens, and then BURNED ALIVE IN HER OWN HOME...  If the media gave any thought to this victim, and actually called the illegal aliens criminals, it's considered "racist".  Bullcrap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BVBL is hardly &#8220;anti-immigrant&#8221;.  There is a BIG difference between &#8220;anti-immigrant&#8221; and &#8220;anti-ILLEGAL immigrant.&#8221;  If you want to see &#8220;anti-immigrant&#8221; sentiments, go to France.  Trust me, what we talk about here is NOTHING compared to how the immigration debate goes.  I am sick and tired of how my community is looking because of gang activity, drugs, and graffiti.  BVBL actually goes out to clean up the mess the ILLEGAL ALIENS leave behind.  Not once do I read a post on anti-bvbl that reads &#8220;graffiti clean up in neighborhood X tomorrow. Meet us at X intersection.&#8221;  I am a Latina myself, and I am thoroughly disgusted with the way the folks at anti-bvbl handle readers who have views that are different from their own.  &#8220;Open dialogue&#8221;? You gotta be kidding me!  As soon as you post &#8220;anchor baby,&#8221; you are blocked from posting further comments, yet they allow their readers to say things such as &#8220;make the white man pay&#8221; and &#8220;help save our white a**es&#8221; and merely receive a slap on the wrist.  Where is your story about the elderly woman in D.C. who was defrauded thousands of dollars by a bunch of illegal aliens, and then BURNED ALIVE IN HER OWN HOME&#8230;  If the media gave any thought to this victim, and actually called the illegal aliens criminals, it&#8217;s considered &#8220;racist&#8221;.  Bullcrap.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go go go Moms with mouses!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go go go Moms with mouses!!!</p>
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